Richard discusses how he started in construction and made his way to become the founder of a huge company that manufactures cast stone and cut stone. He talks about how he found the hole in the market and decided to go for it, and how systems in their business have made them so successful.

In this second interview with Frank McKinney, he talks about how he trained for his first Badwater Ultramarathon (135 miles in Death Valley in July) and how it relates to business. He has completed it over 6 times and has amazing insights on pushing yourself harder.

Derek founded CDbaby the largest online distributor of independent music and sold it a few years ago to DiscMakers for $22 million. He also created a viral TED talk called "How to Start a Movement" which displayed a one lone nut dancing at a concert, and the movement that happened from the first follower. He has a successful blog at Sivers.org and a new book entitled "Anything You Want: 40 Lessons for a New Kind of Entrepreneur"